Shady Backflash ([info]merlinswheel) wrote,
@ 2007-07-17 11:27:00
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pondering ron paul, conservatism and the constitution in police state america
a little over a decade ago, when i was going to grad school in boulder, i met a guy on dead tour who was very into the common law movement and individual sovereignty. he sparked my interest in learning about the foundations of constitutional law in the united states and, in his informally trained way, taught me a good deal and encouraged me to continue to investigate the law. the gist of a lot of what he said can be summed up as follows: there is constitutional law and there is contractual law. most constitutional law pertains to a single concept: we are born sovereign and the State shall make no law to abridge such rights. The Bill of Rights essentially lays out those things which the drafters of the constitution conceived as inalienable rights. the concept of inalienable rights is pretty straightforward but seldom really understood. these rights are recognized as having been granted by The Creator. they cannot be granted by any government nor taken by any government. every human born to planet earth has these same rights and governments around the world can either chose to recognize these inalienable rights or ignore them. the bill of rights created a charter whereby it directed the government that adopted its charter to recognize these inalienable rights.

lately i've been on a bit of a kick to figure out how the government that drafted the bill of rights became the same government that drafted the patriot act. the obvious answer is, of course, it is NOT the same government. time has passed and circumstances change. the constitution was said to be a living document and one that was thought to be malleable with the times. inalienable rights are, of course, not subject to the changing whims of the times, public opinion, fashion, etc.

for that reason, i've been watching the ron paul for president movement with a great deal of curiousity. ron paul, a congressman from texas, is running as a republican candidate for president who wants to get the united states out of iraq, balance the budget, repeal the patriot act and return the united states to a constitutional government.

he does very well in post-debate election polls and has a groundswell of support online, but is either exceedingly marginalized or completely ignored in most major media discussions of the republican primaries.

nevertheless, one of the things that ron paul's candidacy has seemed to do is define the conservative movement in the states as an entity separate from the neo-conservative movement in the united states.

i define the conservative movement in the united states as a movement that is motivated to restore a system of constitutional government in the united states. the conservative movement wants to reduce or abolish federal taxation for everything not designated in the constitution, remove provisions limiting individual freedoms, and abolish most forms of federal spending.

the conservative movement also wants to abolish the centralized bank known as the federal reserve bank and the internal revenue system that collects money to pay the interest on the money the fed loans (with interest) to the united states treasury.

sometimes that conservative movement comes across as a narrow minded movement of john birchers, militia members and confederate flag waving kkk shills who claim to be "true patriots" but more often than not, they are individuals and free thinkers who have examined the constitutional basis for most of the "laws" on the books in the united states and realized that the vast majority of them are the result of plans hatched by monied interests to subjugate the masses in order to create an obedient consumer work force.

the neo-conservative movement is, i believe, the product of very wealthy individuals manipulating carefully constructed think tank talking points to manipulate the less educated (or dogmatically blinded) conservatives into believing that their interests are being served by the neo-cons. it adopts much of the posturing of the conservative movement but delivers almost none of it. instead, what it delivers is a corporate / globalist police-state agenda intent on creating a permanent war-time economy that will put the united states taxpayers into spiraling levels of debt.

i haven't been on the planet long, but the current regime definitely strikes me as the worst and most harmful form of crony capitalism imaginable... an empire established by a global economic monarchy intent on subjecting individual nations to the grand designs of bankers, death merchants and death merchant bankers.

winston churchill once famously said, "If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain."

the concept was, of course, that conservatives would provide fiscal responsibility and a certain level of civic even-handedness, while liberals would allow a bloated and ever-expanding state to force individuals to pay ever increasing taxes.

to my thinking, the entire liberal-conservative debate is best understood as "managed conflict" not unlike the two warring factions in orwell's 1984. neither side is intended or expected to end the ideological war. instead, we are asked to pick sides in this quarrel and defend "our side" to the end, never really bothering to notice that the systems that perpetuate the conflict have every reason to prolong it indefinitely.



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[info]sonjasayssmile
2007-07-17 04:14 pm UTC (link)
Post more often! I enjoyed reading this.

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[info]merlinswheel
2007-07-17 08:10 pm UTC (link)
thanks. i mostly post on my tribe.net blog but have been cross-posting more and more lately.

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[info]merlinswheel
2007-07-17 08:11 pm UTC (link)
cross-posting meaning posting the same post to multiple blogs... rather than cross-dressing and then posting.

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[info]beowulf1723
2007-07-17 10:43 pm UTC (link)
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<spews some water -- fortunately not on the computer.>

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I agree
(Anonymous)
2007-07-17 04:21 pm UTC (link)
I also just came across an entry on another site and an epiphany hit me: can you imagine how little the gov't could do without the federal reserve? If the gov't actually had to directly tax us for big ventures (like a war) instead of printing money and having us pay for the inflation it would come to a standstill. No wonder both the Democratic and Republican elite both hate him, he would take away all their power.

http://zealfortruth.org/2007/07/inflation-surges-correlate-with-war/

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[info]alobar
2007-07-17 07:55 pm UTC (link)
> the entire liberal-conservative debate is best understood as "managed
> conflict" not unlike the two warring factions in orwell's 1984.

You sum things up nicely. A pendulum clock actually tells time because the pendulum swings back and forth. Which is why I plan to register as a Republican. So I can vote for Ron Paul in the Primary. If scads of Ron Paul republicans were running for house and senate seats, it would then be time for me to find another party to help maintain the balance.

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[info]merlinswheel
2007-07-17 08:09 pm UTC (link)
even though i was saying and thinking a great deal of this in '96 and '00 when i voted for ralph nader, it hadn't fully occurred to me until i began looking at some of the common law sites and that video zeitgeist... then a lot of the robert anton wilson and variou other "schools" of thought helped become more sharply focused...

i *got* not only why christmas is on the 25th of december (rather than on the solstice proper) but also why the federal reserve is able to keep control no matter *who* takes power.

that's the mess i think we're really in. i mean the transition from bill clinton to george w. bush at least put one question to rest -- whether it makes any difference who gets elected.

it absolutely makes a difference to have a rhodes scholar in office who can "feel our pain" rather than a smirking arrogant punk ass chump who is functionally illiterate. the world is far worse off with that sham of a candidate in there. but perhaps in the cosmic scheme of things more people would have stayed asleep under gore.

nevertheless, here we are... it's 2008 election time essentially... and the fact of the matter is that *only* ron paul is going to stand up and say "don't be tricked." the anonymous poster above (who you be anyway?!?) made a very valid point... if the government taxed for war instead of increased the number of dollars in circulation, how many would stand in line to pay the war taxes?

so fuck these clowns. i'm just glad i *finally* see what the "true conservatives" have been trying to say all these years about "tax and spend liberals." it's that the vast majority of goverment spending programs are blatantly unconstitutional. and, thus, they say, we've all been led away from a constitutional republic into a socialist system. all these years i've been oblivious to what they mean and thinking "well, socialism in the form of lunch programs and health care is a fuck of a lot better than $$$ for bombs!"

then along comes ron paul to say "it doesn't really matter. spending $$$ you've taken from people illegally by an illegally federal reserve / IRS system is still illegal no matter how you juggling the numbers.

so here's my question... if most of the IRS tax $$$ goes towards the interest, where do most of the federal programs come from? not from state taxes. they gotta come from somewhere, right? anyone know?

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[info]alobar
2007-07-17 08:35 pm UTC (link)
I just passed your question on to [info]ronpaul2008. Will report back when I I hear something.

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[info]hugh_mannity
2007-07-17 11:20 pm UTC (link)
Agreed, an excellent summation.

The real difference in politics is not between "left" and "right", but between libertarian (note the small "l") and authoritarian forms of government.

Right now we have two authoritarian parties running the show, and thus no real choice.

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[info]merlinswheel
2007-07-18 01:15 am UTC (link)
the problem with large L libertarianism that i've been wrestling with is that corporate welfare has been in place for long enough now that the "free market" advocates can say "ok, let's remove the tax burden *and* let's remove the safety net." once the safety net theory is gone, then the level of battle for table scraps at the bottom would get pretty ugly. and it still wouldn't resolve the problem of the dollar accumulating debt because of its relationship to the fed. so i dunno... it's a sticky wicket!

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[info]soul_in_flames
2007-07-18 03:13 pm UTC (link)
Indeed, one of the things that I keep thinking about is what will happen to the really poor people, those that can't work... Some Libertarians I know argue that since the people that do have money will have more of it freeing up, they will contribute to more charities, hence helping those in need. I keep wondering if that would really happen. In theory, I would gladly give 10% of my income to charity, if I didn't have to pay 30% plus to the government. Then again, I would probably use that newfound wealth to invest in my businesses and my education first.
The thing is that U.S, citizens are some of the most generous charity-givers. But let's not forget that all that charity money is tax-deductible, so people are giving to their pet causes so as to not give to the government. How many people would rather give money to their disabled neighbors that they probably never see, than to their glorious mega-church that promises to buy them a ticket to salvation from their tithes?

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[info]alobar
2007-07-18 09:07 pm UTC (link)
Two ruling class parties. No political party for the working class.

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[info]hugh_mannity
2007-07-18 11:00 pm UTC (link)
Yep. Just a squabble over who gets to beat on the peasants this time round. It's despicable how far the "land of the free" has fallen.

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